kako se boriti protiv sistema policijske represije

[ЯЭВОЛУТИОН]

Skoro da ste svi popili po neku prijavu, a u skorije vreme i zabranu upravljanja motornim vozilom.....kazne su postale drakonske bez ikakvog efekta osim punjenja drzavne kase....i dalje mnogo ljudi gine po putevima....evo kako seu australiji bore protiv toga..


My name is Stan. I am a retired Sergeant of Police in Victoria for 14 years. I was also a police prosecutor at times, so I know what I am talking about. I spent half my life in Magistrates Court during my time in the Force. I was only ever a very fair copper, and I am proud of my time in the job, looking after the interests of Victorians, often to the detriment of my family and my health.
I never booked any driver for a trifling offence “ever”. People committing trifling offences commonly used to get a warning and a licence / vehicle check. It had to be serious before I booked anyone.
I am so annoyed at what is happening these days, in what I call “Indiscriminate revenue gathering” It is absolutely disgusting. The government and the Police Force need to hang their heads in shame. If you did a survey of current serving members of the police forces in this country, you would be hard pushed to find many who disagree with me.
I know how the legal system works, and I know how to beat the system. This is how to do it, and if about 10% of all drivers booked follow my specific instructions, then the entire system will crash and become unworkable to the extent, that the government will have no choice but to stop issuing fines for every type of traffic offence. The whole lot of them. Seriously.
I do not feel guilty about coming out with this information, as I think it’s about time someone stood up for hard working, civil minded, law abiding taxpayers in this country, who are being screwed.
This is very simple and very basic. The idea is to clog up the system in the traffic camera office and the courts by drivers exercising their rights to remain innocent until proven guilty.
SIMPLE BASIC LEGAL STEPS TO FOLLOW…………….
1. Do not accept the alleged offence. There are numerous valid reasons to dispute every single alleged offence. Often the charges are incorrect or the evidence is illegally or incorrectly gathered.
2. Challenge it, tell them that you are going to defend the matter. Make them earn their miserable $150 or $200 or whatever. They have to prepare evidence and witnesses. Just the wages for the camera operator or the Policeman on the day of the court, will be more than the actual fine. You are also taking a camera operator or a member of the Police Force off the street for the day. But it won’t get to that point…..read on….
3. If a court date is ever set, and it does not suit you, do not accept it, ask for a delay to a time and place that suits you.
4. When they re set the date, delay it as often as possible. keep pleading not guilty all through the process. You have every right to be sick, or go for an adjournment if the day does not suit for any legitimate reason. For example you may have pressing family or work commitments which prevent you from attending a particular court on a particular day.
5. If it ever actually gets to court, (which is unlikely if everyone does this) and if you are unwell that day, ring the court in the morning and tell them that you cannot make it as you are sick. The camera operator, and a police prosecutor will already be at court, and will be greatly inconvenienced, by having to come back another day. The whole time this is going on, the amount of paperwork involved at the traffic camera office is huge. Several staff are involved, and it rapidly becomes very costly, probably running into thousands. …..with me so far…..keep reading…….
6. The court system is then placed under such a massive load by people who wanted “their day in court” that it simply will not be able to cope unless they open up about another 50 magistrates courts, and this is obviously going to cost the government a lot more than any revenue raised. If all the above fails, which is highly unlikely….and you actually go to court and get convicted……you have a right of appeal. Make sure you appeal the conviction. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see what happens. They are not going to spend millions chasing hundreds.
7 Tell everyone you know to challenge their alleged offences, and the entire system will crash within a few weeks.
8. Please pass this on. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THE EVIDENCE USED AGAINST YOU IS WRONG. YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHALLENGE ANY ALLEGED OFFENCE. THIS IS WHY COURTS EXIST….SO USE THEM……A LOT.
Regards,
Stan

[zmiya]

E pa to je u australiji,a kod nas va¾i pravilo da je osl uvek u pravu i da nema razloga da la¾e..

[balcan girl]

pa da ali zamisli ti npr u jagodini imas sta plafon 100 saobracajaca sto na auto putu sto po gradu i sad zamisli ti da svaku kaznu koju napise ovaj nece da potpise zapisnik i trazi da ide kod sudije pa odlaze, racunajuci da svaki covek dobije od istog pandura kaznu taj bi morao jebeni svaki dan da dolazi u sud pa on dodje a ti ne dodjes, ili ti dodjes a on ne dodje i takooo dok to ne zastari

[zmiya]

Pa tako je pre i bilo ...

[balcan girl]

ovde nije ovde svi potpisuju picka im materina doduse meni nikad nista al je se izvlacim na familiju

[dzimika]

Ovo kao da su lazic i mrle pisali

[Hohštapler]

Pa ovako u Srbiji funkcioni¹e sud veæ decenijama... ovaj Stan mora da je neki Stanko ¹to je do¹ao odavle..

[ЯЭВОЛУТИОН]

ceo sisitem bi kolapsirao kada bi se svi zalili i trazili suocenje....jednostavno bi morali da budu po ceo dan u sudnici....jedno pisanje prijave traje 10 minuta a sudjenje bar sat vremena..za svaku prijavu on mora da izgubi sest puta vise vremena....7 kazni dnevno napisanih je jedan njegov citav dan izgubljen u sudu....a norma im je 20 kazni kako mi je receno...

[isterivac]

Auto slabo vozim, samo kad moram..
A motorom nikada i nikome ne stajem.

[Lazic]

Ovo kao da su lazic i mrle pisali

A to je ne¹to lo¹e...

[Major]

Tihi i Prle

[UFF]

ceo sisitem bi kolapsirao kada bi se svi zalili i trazili suocenje....jednostavno bi morali da budu po ceo dan u sudnici....jedno pisanje prijave traje 10 minuta a sudjenje bar sat vremena..za svaku prijavu on mora da izgubi sest puta vise vremena....7 kazni dnevno napisanih je jedan njegov citav dan izgubljen u sudu....a norma im je 20 kazni kako mi je receno...

tacno samo sto u usa imas foru: pay the fine in 30 days or plead not guilty
sa tim da ako ides na ovo drugo kao sto bi lazic isao pa ne prodjes onda ti se kazna DUPLIRA + troskovi suda + dnevnica za tog pandura pa se drkaj sa sistemom
tako da nije im problem sto ce to dugo da traje, nije problem i da investiraju u nove sudove i zaposle nove radnije nit da se ganjaju sa tobom jer ti se sve to sabira i na kraju fakturise (npr neces da stanes murji na autoputu i oni angazuju 3 vozila i helikopter dok te en zaustave, ti na kraju stanes i kazes ok pisite mi kaznu za brzu voznju jer nista vise uradio nisam e pa oni saberu dnevnice za vozaca i suvozaca u kolima pa puta 3 pa pilot i kopilot, pa kerozin, pa rentiranje helikoptera u privatne svrhe jer tamo mozes da iznajmis policiju da te cuva isto kao i privatnu firmu i onda se ugrade tj dupliraju realne cene pa ti sve lepo fakturisu) a sve ti je povezano sa social security number pa ne mozes bukvalno nista da obavis dok dugove ne izmiris a ne kao kod nas samo fiktivnu adresu da dobijes
takodje posle tih prvih 30 dana mislim da ti na kaznu ide kamata od 80% ako ne platis pa posle neka normlna svakog meseca npr 3% tako da je drzavi u interesu da ti ne platis odmah vec da pokusas da je zavlacis
a ubrzo bi isto to uveli i ovde kad bi svi krenuli da traze suocenje

[clutch&brake]

da li vi to realno upordjujete Srpsko sudstvo sa ostalim zemljama???

[Major]

Srpsko sta?

[Lazic]

kakav sex...?

@Uff:
ti kao da nisi bio u amerikama...  Bre 300 miliona ljudi, naravno da i tamo zastarevaju prekr¹aji, googlaj malo kolika im je naplativost kazni, pa æe¹ videti da je Mrleta i mene puna amerika...

[juga]

Jedan poziv primi¹, jedan odlo¾i¹, pa opet, jedan primi¹....pa kome dosadi , samo je drkanje da èeka¹ dve godine koliko je sada, al se na kraju isplati!!!

[SrpskiDzedaj011]

 

[zVuk]

...na sudu sam oborio prijavu za brzu voznju, usled nedostatka dokaza.....u pitanju su bili stari radari na cijim displejima je pisala samo brzina, ali ne i koje vozilo je islo tom brzinom (to mi je bila odbrana)......posle par meseci mi je stigla plava koverta sa oslobadjajucom presudom......

[Gvozden]

juce ortak dodje i pokaze mi paraf od sudije.... digao ga tocak , zaturirao...doduse posle nije hteo da stane....ko pravi manijak..
Ne ulazim u raspravu jel ok ili nije..nije znam, jbg ,al mladost ludost,.. bezali smo i mi, vozili bez tabli, dizali , turirali...samo sto onda nisu imali kamere, mikrofone, radare...
elem
2 meseca robije, ( ide za koji dan)
15.000
1 godina oduzete
14 poena....
Jbg, bas se nesto ne isplati biti manijak u malom mistu....

[Lazic]

juce ortak dodje i pokaze mi paraf od sudije.... digao ga tocak , zaturirao...doduse posle nije hteo da stane....ko pravi manijak..
Ne ulazim u raspravu jel ok ili nije..nije znam, jbg ,al mladost ludost,.. bezali smo i mi, vozili bez tabli, dizali , turirali...samo sto onda nisu imali kamere, mikrofone, radare...
elem
2 meseca robije, ( ide za koji dan)
15.000
1 godina oduzete
14 poena....
Jbg, bas se nesto ne isplati biti manijak u malom mistu....

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