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Motori => Motori => BMW => Temu započeo: PECA BMW poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 14:13

Naslov: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 14:13
Novi RS , nije los , lepo izgleda .. Mene licno podseca na Fazer-a

Svidja mi se opcije za kofere kao i na dosadasnjim modelima gde se nosaci uopste ne vide kad se koferi poskidaju .

I drago mi je sto su posude za ulje vratili na one integrisane u rucici da nije kao na MZ ili japancima da strce napolje kao infuzija ...

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Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Balsa Wrx poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 14:17
Ovaj BMW kad sam ga vidio na otvaranje EICME odusevio sam se,samo nisam gledao jel vodeno ili vazdusno ladjenje? i rekoh sebi ili ovo ili s1000r za god,god ipo :D
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 14:22
Jeste vodeno , nemaju koliko sam ja skontao posebnu oznaku za vodenjake ali vidim da svi koriste ovu oznaku WC (Water Cooling) .

evo spec :


    Displacement cm3 1170
    Bore/stroke mm 101/73
    Output kW/hp 92/125 at rpm 7750
    Torque Nm 125 at rpm 6500
    Type air/liquid-cooled twin-cylinder boxer engine
    No. of cylinders 2
    Compression/fuel 12.5:1, premium unleaded (95 RON)
    Valve actuation DOHC
    Valves per cylinder 4
    Ø Intake/outlet mm 40/34
    Ø Throttle valve mm 52
    Mixture preparation BMS-X
    Alternator W 508
    Battery V/Ah 12/12 maintenance-free
    Headlight W H7/LED (optional)
    Starter kW 0.9
    Clutch anti-hopping oil-bath clutch
    Gearbox constant mesh 6-speed gearbox
    Final drive cardan shaft
    Frame construction type tubular steel bridge frame, engine self-supporting
    Suspension, front upside-down telescopic fork
    Suspension, rear BMW EVO Paralever
    Spring travel, front/rear mm 140/140
    Wheel castor mm 114,8
    Wheelbase mm 1 530
    Steering head angle ° 62,3
    Brakes front hydraulically actuated twin-disc brake Ø 320 mm, rear single-disc brake Ø 276 mm
    ABS BMW Motorrad Integral ABS (standard, part-integral, can be switched off)
    Tyres – 120/70ZR17 (F), 180/55ZR17 (R)
    L x W – 2203 x 998
    Seat Height – 820mm
    Unladen weight road ready – 236kg
    Fuel Capacity – 18 litres
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 14:43
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Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Cale poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 18:16
Jebo ga kum njegov pametni.Koji mu je idiot dao oznaku "WC" ?
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Darko poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 18:17
a ram cevast ?  ;)
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Cale poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 18:18
 ;D
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: VR 46 poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 22:03
 [clapp] full!
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: clutch&brake poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 23:10
Bomba
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: bigbad86 poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 23:18
Sve sve al sto bre i dalje prave ziljave motore...

On topic: Da nije malo mnogo 12.5 atmosfera? Kolka je Peco tebi na tvom bokseru?
EDIT: Nasao, 9.2, ko peglica :)
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: perlx poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 23:38
Dobar :)
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:09
Citat: bigbad86 poslato 04 Januar, 2015, 23:18
Sve sve al sto bre i dalje prave ziljave motore...

On topic: Da nije malo mnogo 12.5 atmosfera? Kolka je Peco tebi na tvom bokseru?
EDIT: Nasao, 9.2, ko peglica :)

2 cilindra velika kubikaza  .. to je to .... ne znam podatke ali neki  Dukati sa tom kubikazom ili neki drugi dvocilindricni verujem da su tu negde pa mozda i vise
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:25
Tu su negde, od 40 konja vi¹e u odnosu na ovog RS-a pa na dalje za istu kubika¾u :D
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: srbac poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:27
Meni je nekako boxer prevazidjena stvar odavno... jedino jos BMW ga gura... lepo izgleda...
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:40
Citat: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:25
Tu su negde, od 40 konja vi¹e u odnosu na ovog RS-a pa na dalje za istu kubika¾u :D

BMW:
Compression         12.5:1
Bore/stroke mm    101/73
Output kW/hp      92/125 at rpm 7750
Torque Nm            125 at rpm 6500

Ducati :

Bore x Stroke         106 x 67.9mm
Compression ratio  12.5:1
Power                    99.3 kW (135 hp) @ 8,750 rpm
Torque                  118 Nm (87 lb-ft) @ 7,250 rpm

ne bih ja reko da se tu nesto mnogo razlikuje ili ja ne sto ne znam , ne vidim bas tih 40ks razlike


to je ovaj Ducati Monster 1200 :
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1200/tech_spec.do (http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1200/tech_spec.do)
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:42
Evo na primer PUTNA Multistrada iz 2012. godine:

Displacement:   1198.40 ccm (73.13 cubic inches)
Engine type:   V2, four-stroke
Power:   150.00 HP (109.5 kW)) @ 9250 RPM
Torque:   118.65 Nm (12.1 kgf-m or 87.5 ft.lbs) @ 7500 RPM
Compression:   11.5:1
Bore x stroke:   106.0 x 67.9 mm (4.2 x 2.7 inches)
Valves per cylinder:   4
Fuel system:   Injection. Tsubishi electronic fuel injection system, Mikuni elliptical throttle bodies
Fuel control:   Desmodromic valve control
Cooling system:   Liquid
Gearbox:   6-speed
Transmission type,
final drive:   Chain
Clutch:   Light action, wet, multiplate clutch with hydraulic control. Self-servo action on drive, slipper action on over-run


A i ti se uhvatio za jednog od najjaèih BMWovih boxera i za najslabiju klasu Ducatija... Diavel, Multistrada, Streetfighter i Ducatijevi RRovi te kubika¾e su svi od 150 pa na dalje konja.  ;D
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:45
Citat: srbac poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:27
Meni je nekako boxer prevazidjena stvar odavno... jedino jos BMW ga gura... lepo izgleda...

xe xe isto ja mislim za V agregate i one sa jednim cilindrom ( a i onaj V sto naopako postavljen u Guzzi)

Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:49
Ja mislim da si ti suvi¹e pristrasan... V agregati se na¹iroko koriste u moto industriji, sigurno za to postoji razlog.
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:53
Citat: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:42

A i ti se uhvatio za jednog od najjaèih BMWovih boxera

pa i nema drugih, to je isti agregat u R , RS , RT , GS i u buduce S i ST  ..

pravo da ti kazem bas uopste ne pratim druge marke mada i ovo pratim slabo , bas kad naleti tako neka prezentacija pa pogledam , kontam nikad to necu da imam pa koj moj da gledam , mozda cu i moci da kupim za jedno 20 god pa cu tad i da se interesujem  ..
Vidim svi imaju po 25 -30 ks vise ali i 7 do 15Nm manje ...
Licno meni ta razlika u konjazi preko 100ks cini mi se nebih pravila veliku razliku na takvim turing motorima .. ali ko zna , kad kupim ja cu vam kazem :D
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: PECA BMW poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:57
Citat: Andreja poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 00:49
Ja mislim da si ti suvi¹e pristrasan... V agregati se na¹iroko koriste u moto industriji, sigurno za to postoji razlog.

Mozda i jesam , nije nemoguce , kao sto tebi nekako zastarelo tako i meni .
ti boxeri se koriste na motornim zmajevima u automobilima , valjda ima razlog za to ..

Zato i postoje razliciti motori , svi volimo nesto drugacije , neko crnke neko plavuse , uff voli milfare i ako su zastarele :D   neki cigaru pale upaljacem ja palim laserom ...
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: dr32 poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 02:25
Juuu skoro pa da nije asimetrican, sta im bi???
Naslov: Odg: BMW R1200RS WC
Poruka od: UFF poslato 05 Januar, 2015, 02:48
izgleda odlicno
mada ga deklovi jebu :D
kad padnes ne brines za plastike vec kupujes nov agregat