Evo da se predstavim ovako ovijem svecanim povodom, pred nasirokim auditorijumem i tako...to. [yahoo]
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Kahm, evo fotaka nekih mojih radova, ko hoce da vidi uzivo mora da plati da mu naslikam. [djavo]
Da se uozbiljim. Dakle, radim airbrush i farbanje (farbanje samo ako se radi i airbrush). Ovaj posao shvatam veoma ozbiljno i nije mi hobi, to je moj poziv, moj adrenalin i nesto sto radim sa ljubavlju od rane zore pa do mraka ako treba.
Cene su vema povoljne, jer cilj mi je da radim sto vise.
Takodje radim i slike na platnu po porudzbini, airbrush tehinikom,oslikavam laptopove, majice... pa koga zanima, neka stisne ovo za fb.
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Lepo izgleda, ali te molim, budi cesce na forumu i okaci jos neke svoje radove. Man' se fejzbuka, nemaju ga svi ;)
ti si radio na onom kawasakiju na tasu. joj, prolazim skoro svaki dan pored njega. odlicno je ofarban, svaka cast, dacu ti jednog dana da mi ofarbas ducatija! ;D
onaj crno/beli mi je poznat!! [clapp]
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Znam gde cu doci ako mi padne na pamet neko oslikavanje [cheers]
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mnogo lepo [thumb_up]
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Odlicni radovi ! Svaka cast majstore.
lepo ti to radis. Crno beli mi je skroz OK.
Hvala ljudi, nadam se da cemo saradjivati.
Farbach, kompliment od tebe je suvisno komentarisati, hvala puno.
Evo malo zafrkancije
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I jedna slika na platnu
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druze svaka cast ti si lud totalno
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vrh [clapp]
sve pohvale, znam gde cu da idem ako mi zatreba airbrush :)
Bolje kod njega nego kod onog prevaranta u Trsteniku-...
Pa taj u Mitrovici nije sigurno potro¹io tuðu farbu i lagao èoveka 2 godine da æe da mu ofarba motor...
ps.
sviðaja mi se kako si naslikao Dakijev TDM.
Ne znam za doticnog kolegu, ali za sebe garantujem da nikad ne bih prevario klijenta.
Hvala Miljane. Daki, cini mi se, dolazi uskoro da mu uparim i kofere i kacigu sa motorom.
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 08 Oktobar, 2011, 16:51
Ne znam za doticnog kolegu, ali za sebe garantujem da nikad ne bih prevario klijenta.
Hvala Miljane. Daki, cini mi se, dolazi uskoro da mu uparim i kofere i kacigu sa motorom.
TDM si uradio kao jing-jang kombinaciju tj. olièenje ljudske du¹e-dualitet kontrasta. Sviða mi se taj fazon. Daki je bio letos kod mene pa sam video u¾ivo... Mo¾da samo bela strana da je izra¾ajnija tj. na beloj podlozi, ona nebo plava se vidi sa 2 metra...Veæ dalje je bleðe. Mada je sad to i stvar afiniteta... Njemu se mnogo sviða... Otkinuo je na aplikacije.....
Da, Daki je takvu zelju izrazio, da bude dualitet. Ja sam mu predlozio onu zlatnu liniju po sredini sa runskim napisima (koji inace u prevodu znace YAMAHA TDM :) ) da bi malo otvorila motor i napravila prelaz izmedju crne i bele...a ono - tanka je linija izmedju ljubavi i mrznje. Super je ispala ta linija, kao staro zlato, sa sitnim pukotinama u teksturi i hotspotovima, meni se bas svidja.
Jeste, bela boja je strasno intenzivna i onda malo ugusi tu plavu, posebno na jakom suncu, ali Daki je stariji covek, tj nije vise mladic, tako da nisam hteo da mu se motor sareni kao vasar, pa sam isao malo laganije. :)
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 08 Oktobar, 2011, 17:57
Da, Daki je takvu zelju izrazio, da bude dualitet. Ja sam mu predlozio onu zlatnu liniju po sredini sa runskim napisima (koji inace u prevodu znace YAMAHA TDM :) ) da bi malo otvorila motor i napravila prelaz izmedju crne i bele...a ono - tanka je linija izmedju ljubavi i mrznje. Super je ispala ta linija, kao staro zlato, sa sitnim pukotinama u teksturi i hotspotovima, meni se bas svidja.
Jeste, bela boja je strasno intenzivna i onda malo ugusi tu plavu, posebno na jakom suncu, ali Daki je stariji covek, tj nije vise mladic, tako da nisam hteo da mu se motor sareni kao vasar, pa sam isao malo laganije. :)
Zlatna traka je do koske dobra. Ornamenti na zlatnoj podlizi lepo odvajaju beli i crni kontrast motora. Meni se to svidelo..
Heh... Ma i ja sam mator ;) Mada moj ukus je na beloj vatrenu oran¾ tj. neki plameni anðeo i sl.
U svakom sluèaju ispalo je odlièno..... Jedva èekam da vidim kako æe izgledati koferi... Kako to ide na plastici? Dosta je gruba...
E ubrzo bi trebao da krenem na beloj haubi da radim vatrenog feniksa, takodje jednom "starijem" coveku, mnogo jaka slika, kapiram da ce ti se svideti!
Daki ima neke glatke kofere, koji su fabricki farbani u sivu metalik, cini mi se, tako da ne bi trebalo da bude problema...a iskreno, ne znam kako bih uradio one od gole kuvane plastike, hrapave...
Am.... ne razumem se u plastiku, ali je l` bi mogla ta kuvana obicna (znam koja je - za kosu koristim samo snale od takve plastike... :D ) da se nekako ispolira ili sta?
mo¾e da se ubaci u prajmer ili filer iliti ¹pric-git iliti teèni cement git iliti kit..
Hvala, hvaaaaala! :)
P.S.
Ko zna kad mi sta moze zatrebati da znam... :D
Da, plastik prajmer pa spric git...
Nadalina, nema sanse da ti ovo ne zatreba u zivotu! :D
Свака част! Стварно добри радови....
dojajni radovi tebra,svaka cast
svaka èast za rad!
sviða mi se kawasaki, ceo motor je prelep...
Koliko parica da moja izgleda kao ova sa slike (koloritski) samo neki motivi moji....
Kacige idu po 60 e za sada, Dexter.
Dobrodosao na forum petarhd-e
Sta vozis i odakle si?
Da ti pomognem rubrika se nalazi ovde:
http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php/board,1.0.html (http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php/board,1.0.html)
Da bi znali sa kim "pricamo"
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bez uvrede, al ovo je fail. gde bas glavu staviste na ovaj spoj ???
inace su lepi radovi, stil nije moj fazon, ali dobra tehnika
Citat: petarhd poslato 20 Oktobar, 2011, 10:05
......., koji su vam ljudi zbog velike dobrote izgrebali, .......
Pa dobro momèe da li ti zna¹ uop¹te gde se nalazio njegov motor kada je izgreban?
Citat: easy poslato 20 Oktobar, 2011, 11:00
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bez uvrede, al ovo je fail. gde bas glavu staviste na ovaj spoj ???
inace su lepi radovi, stil nije moj fazon, ali dobra tehnika
Decko, taj spoj uopste nije toliko veliki kada se sve to fino stavi na motor, zato ne pricaj napamet. Probaj ti da utrefis bolje kad ti je sve u delovima. Ti dovezi svoj motor, pa ti nece nista biti na spoju, ako izrazis takvu zelju. Cenim komentar, ali nemoj mi pricati da je moj rad "fail". Pozdrav.
Pa tek na motoru nece moci da se spoji savrseno.
Uostalom, ovo je bio dobronameran komentar, rad kao rad je odlican, ali ''mozda'' je trebalo da ceo rad ide malo desno... Nema potrebe da se osetis uvredjeno...
Lepo lepo....vidim ti si radio Dakijev TDM...bravo......
Hvala, Charuga.
Citat: Kengur poslato 20 Oktobar, 2011, 14:53
Pa tek na motoru nece moci da se spoji savrseno.
Uostalom, ovo je bio dobronameran komentar, rad kao rad je odlican, ali ''mozda'' je trebalo da ceo rad ide malo desno... Nema potrebe da se osetis uvredjeno...
Ne, na motoru se zaista spojilo savrseno, u delic milimetra po vertikali, i naravno da nije toliki razmak izmedju. Ovo je drzano jednom rukom, drugom slikano.
Igore....dali je ovako nesto izvodljivo....kako bi izgledalo.. (ili slicno)..... i koliko bi kostalo..... moze i na PP...
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Ma ok, najbolji parametri su musterije. Ako su oni zadovoljni, onda je to prava stvar...
A ovo su dobronamerni komentari veruj mi...
Radovi su ti odlicni.
Hvala, Kengur. Izvinjavam se ako sam preterao, ali gde ste vi videli neegoisticnog "umetnika"? :D Salim se, hvala jos jednom.
Charuga, saljem na pp.
:)
Podajes li slike na platnu?
Ova me zanima...
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Da, Mortisha. Po narudzbini i autorske. Mozes naruciti bilo sta. Sto se tice ove slike, prodata je, ali nije problem da se uradi jos jedna takva, ili slicna. :) Za sve dalje informacije, cujemo se na PP.
P.S. Poseti Facebook stranicu, ima jos mnogo slika.
kako sam znao ko ce da se raspituje za dzokera, samo sam cekao kad ce da se oglasi... :D
super su ti radovi, a TDM-a si opeglao za sve pare. svala cast.
Citat: Mortisha poslato 22 Oktobar, 2011, 13:01
Podajes li slike na platnu?
Ova me zanima...
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Ovo je i odlièna ideja za rezervoar od ruke sa kartom pa na gore... Svaka èast... Jako dobro uraðeno...
Hvala Mikelandjelo! :) Da, Mortisha trenutno razmislja i premislja. xD
Slazem se miljane, na neki poveci crni rezervoar bi selo mrak!
:) [flashing]
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Gledao sam ti radove na profilu [ludak] [ludak] bobre
Ove su ti vrhh dobre!
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svaka cast
oooooooooooo M.K. Esher odlicno!
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I ja se borim sa gusterima trenutno, vise matematike nego umetnosti :p
ako budes radio probnu kacigu, moras da ides redom, ja sam prvi pitao :)
arai rx-7 rr i udri sta god po njoj (pa ne bas sta god)
znam da ovi sto vezbaju tet se vezbaju na prasicima, a ti imas moju kacigu xexexe
Ako kazes meni SSZGO, kacige su od 50 do 90 e. Probne vise ne radim.
Kolega sa faksa, alal vera, bicemo u kontaktu!
Hvala Vule. Vazi. 066 952 4 222
Fun Page
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Uskoro sajt.
Evo jedna majica...
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odlicno izgleda!!!
Thnx!
Pozdrav svim bajkerima i srecna sezona! Posetite nas na nasem web sajtu http://mysticairbrush.rs/index.html (http://mysticairbrush.rs/index.html)
Nesto novo...
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Del Boy: Now, as the Bible says, 'Clothes maketh the man'.
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ha, nos je extra detalj brw!
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bravo dru¾e prelepo samo napred
Hvala Nikola!
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bravo...zlo koliko je dobro sve...
Thanks! Stize jos jedna uskoro. Samo da napomenem, kacige su 60 do 80e ukoliko ima zainteresovanih.
http://mysticairbrush.rs/ (http://mysticairbrush.rs/)
cene korektno bravo
Malo srednji vek ovaj put... [kralj]
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lord of the rings i templar... mora da je neki metalac u pitanju ;D
A ne ne, nije LOTR, nego neka igra, zaboravih koja, al nije zboh igre nego mu se svideo vitez. A da je metalac, to si u pravu! :D
sad sam se setio, Heroes of might and magic 5!
E jeste, mudro zboris.
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mnogoooo dobro
extra odradjeno,svaka cast
odlican si svaka ti se dala
Honda Monkey Z50J
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Profesorski odradjeno...
Hvala, Joker.
ma ti to doktorsi radis....
Hvala njanja. Bice nesto novo uskoro.
super, ali znaj da je farbach jedini koji ovo radi iz duse i srca, niti mu ko moze postavit rok niti bilo sta, bole njega za bilo kakvu lovu, nekima trazi aviona i kamione, a nekima taman za materiajal, sto govori da je covek zaljubljen u extremne sportove, zato ga cenim, ti si super, ali ja jedino cenim farbach-a
Pa super... xD
Citat: Mad Max poslato 23 Novembar, 2012, 01:16
super, ali znaj da je farbach jedini koji ovo radi iz duse i srca, niti mu ko moze postavit rok niti bilo sta, bole njega za bilo kakvu lovu, nekima trazi aviona i kamione, a nekima taman za materiajal, sto govori da je covek zaljubljen u extremne sportove, zato ga cenim, ti si super, ali ja jedino cenim farbach-a
Poklopi èoveka bez veze. U svakom poslu ima¹ vi¹e majstora, pa bira¹ prema ceni, kvalitetu, prijateljstvu...
Dobri su mu radovi i biæe sve bolji kako vreme ide. Pravo iskustvo je jedino nezamenjivo u poslu.
Koliko æe ko¹tati zavisi koliko su ljudi spremni da plate. I on valjda nekome radi d¾abe, nekome za materijal, a nekome naplati.
Kolko ko¹ta da se uradi replika Senine kacige?
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http://monalisamotorsport.com/images-f1/ayrton-senna-helmet.jpg (http://monalisamotorsport.com/images-f1/ayrton-senna-helmet.jpg)
Citat: mareskin poslato 24 Novembar, 2012, 11:46
Citat: Mad Max poslato 23 Novembar, 2012, 01:16
super, ali znaj da je farbach jedini koji ovo radi iz duse i srca, niti mu ko moze postavit rok niti bilo sta, bole njega za bilo kakvu lovu, nekima trazi aviona i kamione, a nekima taman za materiajal, sto govori da je covek zaljubljen u extremne sportove, zato ga cenim, ti si super, ali ja jedino cenim farbach-a
Poklopi èoveka bez veze. U svakom poslu ima¹ vi¹e majstora, pa bira¹ prema ceni, kvalitetu, prijateljstvu...
Dobri su mu radovi i biæe sve bolji kako vreme ide. Pravo iskustvo je jedino nezamenjivo u poslu.
Koliko æe ko¹tati zavisi koliko su ljudi spremni da plate. I on valjda nekome radi d¾abe, nekome za materijal, a nekome naplati.
nema sta da ga poklapam, niti omalovazavam njega i njegov rad, samo kazem da farbach radi kad ima inspiraciju i volju, a ne samo da novce uzme. lepo ovo izgleda i jos nesto da se razumemo, ne hvlim ja farbach-a zato sto mi je radio nesto, naprotiv nikad nista nismo radili, ali sam mnoge negove radove gledao i znam u kom je fazonu covek. pozdrav
Citat: Mad Max poslato 24 Novembar, 2012, 12:53
bole njega za bilo kakvu lovu,
farbach radi kad ima inspiraciju i volju, a ne samo da novce uzme.
[rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl]
Citat: Andrej_Hotstepper poslato 24 Novembar, 2012, 12:01
Kolko ko¹ta da se uradi replika Senine kacige?
Pozz Andrej. 80e.
Kao sto rekoh - nesto novo. Za koji mesec ce da krstari po Alpima, pa ce biti i fotke sklopljenog motora.
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Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 25 Novembar, 2012, 15:20
Citat: Andrej_Hotstepper poslato 24 Novembar, 2012, 12:01
Kolko ko¹ta da se uradi replika Senine kacige?
Pozz Andrej. 80e.
Kad uzmem novu kacigu mu¹terija sam ti...
Pozz i hvala.
auuu
eto neko me zajebo i vec uradio cb1000r u hrc boje
znaci ja cu nesto drugo..
ja bas htedoh da pitam jel ovo uff radio, al vidim ovu lobanju i zastave i skapiram da nisi ti ;D
lobanje i slicna sranja me ne interesuju
to brango voli i njegovi tatuvirani drogirasi
dobra je ova lombanja,da ih nemam 18 komada na sebi istetovirao bih i ovu [ludak]
po tome sam i predpostavio.. ;)
A sto ne ofarbas motor u crno sa zlatnim felnama? :D
Nemam pare da pozlatim felne
A ako je samo zlatna farba to je ciganija kao i karbon folija :)
Ahahahahaha da da pozlata je bas in :D
Citat: UFF poslato 26 Novembar, 2012, 00:06
Nemam pare da pozlatim felne
A ako je samo zlatna farba to je ciganija kao i karbon folija :)
A nije da nisi oblepljivao ktma i cebera folijom :D
Samo ktm-a
Sta cu kad sam seljak covek i nisam imao da platim farbanje (a kazu i da plastican rezervoar ne moze da se farba jbg)
Èek borèanac ovo za foliju da proèita [rofl]
Edit: po¹tovani gospodin borèanac
ja sam musterija ako kupim kacigu u bgu... koliko treba vremena da se uradi kompletno sve, cela kaciga custom slika...?
Citat: UFF poslato 26 Novembar, 2012, 00:23
Samo ktm-a
Sta cu kad sam seljak covek i nisam imao da platim farbanje (a kazu i da plastican rezervoar ne moze da se farba jbg)
Ti bre jesi seljak covek,lepis foliju prvi,a kenjas kenjas pa opet kenjas, http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10083.0;attach=67574;image (http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10083.0;attach=67574;image) sta hoces da kazes da je ovo sabanski sta...
http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173.0;attach=45068;image (http://www.motomanijaci.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173.0;attach=45068;image)
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prosto Japanci su sabani zbog ove kombinacije,stvarno odvratno...
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Citat: SSZGO poslato 09 Decembar, 2012, 06:32
ja sam musterija ako kupim kacigu u bgu... koliko treba vremena da se uradi kompletno sve, cela kaciga custom slika...?
Sto bi kupovao,ako imas neku kacigu staru u Bgu,airbrasom ces je osveziti i ulepsati,bice kao nova....
Citat: Ga¹par poslato 26 Novembar, 2012, 00:42
Èek borèanac ovo za foliju da proèita [rofl]
Edit: po¹tovani gospodin borèanac
Plasticni rezervoar ne moze da se farba [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [rofl] [facepalm] [facepalm] [facepalm] [facepalm]
karbon folija po ktmu po cbru...Ali ja mislim da karbon folija bi mogla lepo da izgleda samo na 3 bmw...ja razumem to da su poceli da lepe foliju po biciklima gde stignu,ali audi je bas odvratan ovako....
Citat: CBRR1 poslato 09 Decembar, 2012, 11:31
Citat: SSZGO poslato 09 Decembar, 2012, 06:32
ja sam musterija ako kupim kacigu u bgu... koliko treba vremena da se uradi kompletno sve, cela kaciga custom slika...?
Sto bi kupovao,ako imas neku kacigu staru u Bgu,airbrasom ces je osveziti i ulepsati,bice kao nova....
nemam, svoju kacigu sam poneo sa sobom... a ovde prodaju samo neke krseve, ili kostaju po 7000 eura...
tako da ako uzimam drugu kacigu, uzecu je tu...
Treba mi jedno 7-8 dana, zavisi od komplesnosti brusha.
ciganija sa sjajnim kineskim felnama i zatamljenim farovima [facepalm]
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Ljakse proveri barakudine felne cije su,farovi su fabricki tamni iznutra sabane fabricki sabane,i felna je niklovana 18tica,a voleo bi da je imas na bmw-u voleo,samo sto su 18tice a to je za tvojih sto konja veliko...
[rofl] [rofl] [rofl]
ciganijaaaaaaaaaa
i 17 mi je preveliko
vracam se na 16 prvom prilikom
nego jel sam rekao da je ovaj audi ciganija? :D
daj sliku i ml-a
crno beli stormtrooper-u
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Kod mene u selu osamnajstice mecemo na prikolice. Za kola mora nesto vece.
on topic
imas li boje koje bi mogle da opstanu i posle pranja na majici pa da radis ovako nesto?
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Naravno. http://mysticairbrush.rs/gallery%20airbrush%20na%20odeci.html (http://mysticairbrush.rs/gallery%20airbrush%20na%20odeci.html)
Evo sklopljen motor.
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bruuuuka
prelepo prijatelju
koliko para da mi ofarbas srebrni u repsol? bez felni naravno.. [cheers]
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Citat: RRa¹ko poslato 30 Decembar, 2012, 16:50
koliko para da mi ofarbas srebrni u repsol? bez felni naravno.. [cheers]
Kupi bre kineske u repsol boji
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prodaj one svoje originalne i to ti je to za male pare....
p.s.
Nadam se da si zamenio onu masku na motoru ili bar pristojno ofarbao.
pa i ove sa slike su iste takve.. sve od kineza su bulja.. ne pashu, tope se i ne moz da se ofarbaju! video si i sam..
Ma Rale uradi airbrush.. Najbolja kombina..
Ima picke da se seku.. :)
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 20 Decembar, 2012, 00:07
Evo sklopljen motor.
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Ciji je ovo motor? O.o jednostavno je prelep
EDIT:NIsam pratio temu -.-
Rale,a sto ne oteras kod nekoga da ti ofarba u crno narandzastu pa ti posle lepi nalepnice?
Rale:
Ako ces verziju - farbanje, nalepnice, lak, poliranje - 400 e.
- farbanje, airbrush (natpisi), lak, poliranje - 500 e. Nije da sam preterano izbirljiv po pitanju posla, ali me mnogo zamaraju ovakve sterilne stvari (ti silni reklamni naptisi), pa stoga, neko bi rekao - "visoka" cena,
Chris_SM:
Motor je iz Austrije. Vlasnik - Nenad Kurbalija.
@kanarinac nemoj da kenjas vidis da ima i belu i crvenu!
@amidzic msm nemo se ljutis, al meni je to mnogo.. za te pare ima orginal stranice sa stranca u repsol boji i jos mi ostanu moje da ih prodam! hvala na odg u svakom slucaju! da ja hocu neki custom koji ne mogu da nadjem nigde cena bi bila ok! ovako jbg.. svi trazimo nesto ispod cene! uvek je tako.. [cheers]
Brate belu mozes nalepnicom. kao i te manje delove. Kakav crni air brush. Zovi Savu pa vidi koliko ce da te kosta
Naravno, sto bih se ljutio, nadam se da ces se snaci.
Inace, zato sto uzivam dok ih radim, kod mene su unikati mnogo jeftiniji nego nesto sto je "stock".
Igore, majstore, ubija¹ kako radi¹, svaka èast!
Ovaj cb izuva...
Hvala 3006.
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Vrh! Svaka cast!
Jos jedan monkey tankic...
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Koliko kosta rad na kacigi ?
Od 50 do 90 e.
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 05 Januar, 2013, 23:25
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djavolica izgleda ok, ali andjelicu si nacrtao jako lose.......kao da ima pilece grudi, a sisa nigde, stoji nekako rahiticno......nemoj ovo da shvatis kao prozivku, jer ja ne znam da crtam, ali ja ti za takav crtez sigurno ne bih dao nikakve pare, a da sam ti dao pare u napred, terao bih te da radis ponovo.....
prvo - ne bi me ti nista terao. drugo - decko je doneo sliku andjelice. http://imageshack.us/a/img809/5231/devojkapvcnalepnica02sl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img809/5231/devojkapvcnalepnica02sl.jpg)
Nacrtao sam je identicno, a onda je zamolio da joj sklonim jedan "red" trbusnjaka i smanjim tonus misica, posvetlim kozu itd... Hvala na komentaru.
Evo kako je izgledala... http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8696/dsc09720vb.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8696/dsc09720vb.jpg)
u tom slucaju ti si posao uradio kako treba, odnosno bas kako je klijent zahtevao........ali andjelicu je originalni crtac nacrtao katastrofalno....nadam se da kapiras o cemu pricam....
Da, zaista je cudna poza. To je bas onako - Boris Vallejo stil iz 80'. Mozda ju je cak i on crtao, voleo je amazonke. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=TlqIxAj66pJskBsPHk1cpQ&cp=7&gs_id=19f&xhr=t&q=boris+vallejo&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.Yms&bpcl=40096503&biw=1680&bih=920&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=TlqIxAj66pJskBsPHk1cpQ&cp=7&gs_id=19f&xhr=t&q=boris+vallejo&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.Yms&bpcl=40096503&biw=1680&bih=920&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi)
Meni je bitno da je decko presrecan i odusevljen kacigom, jer je upravo onakva kakvom ju je zamislio. To je ipak ono najvaznije, slozices se.
naravno da se slazem da je najvaznije da je klijent dobio ono sto je trazio.......a ne samo da je cudna poza nego i sise su joj nekako cudne....ima ih, a ko da ih nema...
Citat: zVuk poslato 07 Januar, 2013, 14:29...
nego i sise su joj nekako cudne....ima ih, a ko da ih nema...
i ova?
sve nas la¾u svaki dan...
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Mali "privju". Opet Honda cb1000r.
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prelepo
Super radovi svaka cast
ako ostane kesa od motora kacigu bih radio kao srednjevekovni slem
Damnmoto, da te pitam, jel ti hoces u boj ili da se vozis? ;D
pa mora i u boj jbga vidis da ga napadaju matorci u dzipovima
trebaju mu stitnici ahaha
no problemo
i buzdovan sam nabavio za ranac...
javicu ti za kacigu otom potom
Evo nesto malo iz procesa rada, nelakirano.
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Brate ne znam sta bih ti rekao osim da si BOLESNO DOBAR...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hvala, i to je dovoljno! :D Jednu sam fotku zaboravio...
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Do jaja izgleda. Samo mi ovovise za neki coper, nekako mi nije za ovaj tip motora
Videces kad se sklopi motor.
Malo detalja sa rada na Jevtinom Suzukiju. Farba je crna sa sitnom perlom. Zastava je u obicnoj crnoj.
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Odlicno! Lepo si "uhvatio" taj moment leprshanja... Sve bolji i bolji radovi , bravo!
Bice i slike sastavljenog motora al samo da se prolepsa vreme da se to moze lepo uslikati.Valjda od nedelje
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Back Pad - biomehanika
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Nije ba¹ lep i sunèan dan al ajde.
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Koliko vremena treba da se uradi ne¹to ovako?
jefta zatamnio migavce :)
sad jos samo auspuh da nadje
Auuuu! :D Pa ovo je strasno kako dobro izgleda! Svaka cast na fotkama Jevto i hvala!
Mareskin - zavisi dosta od stanja motora, ali tu negde od 7 do 10 dana...
sjajno..... [thumb_up] [thumb_up]
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Evo jedna "docerana"
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kakvi radovi... svetski :)
gotivim kad se kaciga i motor slazu
a u kojoj TAXI firmi radis i zasto nemas TX na tablici
Divljak :) :D ;D 8)
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Svaka cast! [hello]
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Nesto novije. Stavljen je mat lak.
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Ovo su fotke bez laka
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Uskoro bi trebale stici fotke sklopljenog motora. U pitanju je Kawasaki, ne znam tacno koji model, uradjen je kao bober.
Restaurirana konzerva za gas masku nemacke vojske za isti motor.
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Tebra.. koliko para da mi ofarbas kacigu proizvoljno :)
Sta znam... Ova koju radim trenutno je 100e npr. i to je tu negde najskuplja varijanta...
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Inace ide od 50 pa do 100. ti izaberi cifru, a ja ti srazmerno tome uradim neki dizajn.
jesi li radio predatora ikada,poznanik mi nudi da mi uradi airbra¹,i jedino ¹to mi pada na um kao ideja je predator!! ima¹ kakvu fotku,ako si radio naravno.
Nisam radio predatora. Moze se uraditi sa rupicastom folijom preko vizira i ispadne ok. ovo sam nasao na brzinu...http://www.cyclopshelmets.co.uk/DataStore/GalleryImages/Predator/Predator_350774.jpg (http://www.cyclopshelmets.co.uk/DataStore/GalleryImages/Predator/Predator_350774.jpg)
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Imas ovde raznih ideja, mozda ti se nesto vise svidi... https://www.google.rs/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1400&bih=767&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=full+face+airbrush+helmet&oq=full+face+airbrush+helmet&gs_l=img.3...70317.76439.0.76588.27.24.1.2.2.0.370.1530.21j3-1.22.0...0.0...1c.1.9.img.ooJ4XgCbnIk (https://www.google.rs/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1400&bih=767&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=full+face+airbrush+helmet&oq=full+face+airbrush+helmet&gs_l=img.3...70317.76439.0.76588.27.24.1.2.2.0.370.1530.21j3-1.22.0...0.0...1c.1.9.img.ooJ4XgCbnIk)
e hvala al mislio sam na motoru,e sad sam te zeznuo pa si trazio linkove izvini...,mada je i ovo interesantno,ima dobrih stvari,a motor cu farbati u crno,pa kontam u kojojboji bi bolji airbrush ispao srebernij ili bjeloj...,e izvini opet..
Ma nema frke! Ima i toga koliko hoces, ali ako ce ti raditi predatora, onda je najbolje full color da bude. http://s5.goodfon.com/image/150458-1920x1200.jpg (http://s5.goodfon.com/image/150458-1920x1200.jpg)
http://cenlacustomcycles.com/Sport_Bike_-_Predator_e.jpg (http://cenlacustomcycles.com/Sport_Bike_-_Predator_e.jpg)
http://www.airbrushfrankhazen.com/Sport_Bike_-__Predator_f_486x411.jpg (http://www.airbrushfrankhazen.com/Sport_Bike_-__Predator_f_486x411.jpg)
http://www.aerographyx.com/images/afa_airbrush_motorcycle_alien_vs_predator_right2.jpg (http://www.aerographyx.com/images/afa_airbrush_motorcycle_alien_vs_predator_right2.jpg)
Ima i boljih i losijih primera, ovaj prvi moj favorit, jako kvalitetan brush. Jedino sto na tvom motoru nema mnogo mesta za takav rad...
ma da ,jedino nesto na rezrvoar,bocne plastike nikakve...,rep nista,jos sad kad napravim nakeda od njega...,eto samo rezervoar i mali tribute predatoru,volim to jebeno ruzno cudo,i mislim onako torzo predatora,neki polu profil,ili kad nabode na siljke aliena..,ebiga sad mi veæ ma¹ta radi...,hvala na predlozima moram ovo malo uveæati da vidim detalje! [hello]
samo napred, nadam se da cu videti kako je ispalo kada se odradi. pozz
Ne volem lobanje, al ova Honda izgleda bolesno dobro, svaka cas' !!!
Fala vi.
Daj mi mail da ti sibnem sliku
e jbg vec sam te nasao na fb.. al mozda nekom pomogne ;D
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do jaja
Samo napred! [hello]
ROOF kaciga posle pada i grebanja dobila novo ruho. Ode u Austriju.
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odlicno izgleda
[thumb_up] [thumb_up] [thumb_up] ......svaka cast momce......imacu te u vidu..... [cheers]
Hvala Shmeki!
Evo I RRaskove kacige.
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izgore mu bendzamin
A u dobra ideja za ovu 2 svaka cast :)
Vrhunska... [clapp]
Perverzija!
Odlicno! E zvao te ja za jednu gitaru... Dacu liku broj pa nek ti da pare :)
A ti si zvao, Gvozdene. :) OK.
Ode Bendzamin, prokocka ga. :)
Drago mi je da vam se svidja, eno vrti se kod RRaska na gif-u. :)
Evo jos dve.
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bas originalno
Kaciga je ispala u fullu.. onako sharena za sve pare.. bas u njanjinom fazonu ;D bas su me smorile one sivkasto i crno bele kacige, hteo sam da sija u mraku. :) svaka cast amidja. [thumb_up]
Uspeli smo zajednickim snagama da je opravimo! 'Fala baæo! :)
Ono "RR" je vrhunski... ;D
Realno :D
umetnost.. [clapp]
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Ekstra [thumb_up]
Svaka cast za svaki od ovih radova, sve sam ih detaljno pogledao :D Samo napred !
Hvala, ¹omik! :) Bice novih uskoro.
Kaciga radjena na temu - "imam italijanski motor i americki auto" Hteo sam da uradim neki stariji dukati, ali bolje se uklopio ferrari svojim duguljastim oblikom.
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jel to onaj stari ili neki novi
Stari, samo ima novi rep. :)
[klanjam_se],odlièni radovi. [thumb_up]
Ekstra [balavi]
Da malo osve¾imo
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Uuu, hvala na fotki, Jevto! P.S. Svidjaju mi se rucke!
Konstantno se nesto dodaje igram se pomalo.Sad ima dva auspuha pa ih menjam malo malo.
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Svaka cast [clapp]
Jedva cekam da moj dodje na red :)
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 04 Jul, 2013, 21:36
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potseti me ... chiji je ovo grb ?
Bosanski grb.
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[clapp] [thumb_up]
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Brate ko je ovo veci cigan od mene?
Fernando Alonso. :)
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Malo zimskih radosti.
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Ko je ova seljacina? :P :P mora da je jefta
Hehehe, Marko je car. :)
Do jaja svaka ti cast!
ma nije do jaja,to je do ruke brate ;)
svaka cast [klanjam_se]
Hvala, hvala! :)
video veceras uzivo, odlicno izgleda
samo si trebao odma i providnu zastitnu foliju preko toga da prelepis jer ce jefta dobiti srcku ako se izgrebe (a hoce vec prekosutra) :D
Stavice Jefta foliju kad se vrati sa Kopa. :D A ako se bas izgrebe, lako ga sredimo. :) Samo da mu ne prepici neko skijama preko njega i bice ok. :)
znas kako marfi radi :D ja mu reko da ode danas da uzme malo folije u difolu i da prelepi preko, nije bitno kako ce samo da ima zastitu, posle odlepi pa prelepi kako treba i zavrsi posao za duzi period :D
nego kolko para za ovakav print :D
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Znam marfija, 'bo sam mu sve po spisku vise puta. :D Ma nije problem ni ako ga zagrebe, lako se ispolira ako nije preduboko. Odlican mi je taj lak, mislim da ce se pokazati super. Koji, ova gola zeMska? :) Isto kao Jeftin, 70e.
uradi golu zensku uradi golu zensku :)
da znas da hocu, izgreban mi je bord sa gornje strane pa ce ovo leci kao budali samar :D
samo zena ima da me ubije :D
a kad budem uradio ide na plafon daska :D
moram da vidim koliko je nova daska samo tj ako je wide pa da uzmem jos jednu :D
To sto je izgreban, to cemo srediti, bice kao nov. :) Ne znam sta da ti kazem, vredi li rizika? :D
cuj da li vredi :D
makar nedelju dana spavao van kuce vredi uraditi :D (doduse i spavam van kuce nocu tj radim :D )
hahaha, ma boli te uvo onda :D ok, cujemo se uskoro, nadam se!
Ski kaciga.
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Leeepo!!!
A jel zna neko da uradi camo ¹aru?
Zna mali iracanin sa youtubea :) ito auto lakom u spreju
Link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4yEK-4h7CQE (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4yEK-4h7CQE)
Nije malisa al poenta je ista
@farbach: majstore , ajde daj tvoju soluciju!
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Extra!
Bravo, svaka cast [thumb_up]
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bra'o [thumb_up]
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svaka cast!
U bre sta reci sem da je bas bas mocno,samo tako nastavite tj.ako moze i bolje.
Pozdrav!!!
Bravo! [thumb_up] Reci mi okvirno koliko izadje da se uradi kaciga? imam agv gp tech,kao ovu sto si radio,malo sam je razgulio i izbledela je,pa bi je sarao,al jos ne znam sta bi..Sta cu kad sve volem :D Da znam da planiram i da smisljem polako sta bi.
Hvala ljudi! Veske, saljem PP.
jedno 300 evrica hahah :P
Pa nisam bas toliko bezobrazan. :)
Citat: Manjovac_Kv poslato 06 Mart, 2014, 18:12
jedno 300 evrica hahah :P
Pa nisi mnogo omanuo :D kad se sad nisam slogirao,nikad necu,kukuuuuu...
zezam se naravno!:)
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Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 07 Mart, 2014, 14:09
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:o :o :o [klanjam_se]
Cek da ja dodjem na red.... ;)
Bela je lepa, ali ovo je perverzija!
Au,perverzija! Svaka ti dala!
Bravoooooo!!!
Moram ja moje plastike da poskidam i da ih èuvam vredeæe to vremenom ko rad poznatog majstor Igora puno para [kralj]
Gracias amigos! :)
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[clapp] [clapp] [clapp] [clapp] [clapp]
E jbg sta je sledece.?
Sve bolje za boljim!
Bravo!
verujem brate da te ni jedan profesor likovnog nije zeleo u svom razredu
svaka cast,ebaci dobar posao
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[clapp] [clapp] [clapp]
neverovatno! svi radovi su odlicni....nije kao neki koji znaju dobro da urade ali samo kad se potrude, ti se uvek trudis i svaka cast!
Grafit crna i mat lak.
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neki poseban lak bezbojni ili ?
Standardni MaxMeyer mat lak.
izgleda [klanjam_se] [klanjam_se]
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[stop] [nono] Da ne dodje do zabune, odmah cu da istaknem da ovo vozi zena.
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[clapp] Slikaj i zenu [thumb_up]
Jel to ona klinka sto vozi trke?
Hahaha, ne mogu, pravo da ti kazem nisam je ni video.
Nije, ova vozi po Austriji.
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Five continents by Drudi!?
Bogami teska tema, ja sam spremio u foliji jednu, dani i dani crtanja.....
Inace Drudijevi radovi su fantazija.....
Kakva je to kruna?
kralja Petra I Karaðorðeviæa
[cheers]
Jeste, Drudi i bilo je zeznuto, mnogo trake, mnogo strpljenja.
Inace, covek je Francuz, ali mnogo voli Srbiju, pa je trazio krunu.
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..jel ovo stvorenje treba da predstavlja goluma..??
ne da treba nego je isti ,...svaka cast
Koji majstor ovaj zVuk. :)
Hvala, Dacho.
Jos jednom [klanjam_se] [kralj]
Radovi se sve bolji i bolji [thumb_up]
Ja ne verujem kako dobri radovi!
Sve pohvale! [clapp]
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 25 Mart, 2014, 14:39
Koji majstor ovaj zVuk. :)
Hvala, Dacho.
sudeci po tvojim radovima, mozes ti to mnogo bolje,...golum bi trebao da je ruzan, a na ovoj kacigi izgleda kao maneken.......i ne kazem ti ja to da bi te omalovazio, nego bas zato sto smatram da mozes i trebas vise da se posvetis detaljima.....po tome se majstori razlikuju od obicnih mazala.......
meni se vecina tvojih radova svidja, ali kad mi se ne svidja, ja cu ti reci uvek.....i vrlo rado cu obrazloziti zasto mi se ne svidja......ja neumem da crtam, i sigurno ne bih umeo bolje, ali ja se time ni ne bavim, ti zaradjujes od toga i ja ti samo zelim da budes jos bolji u tome sto radis i da jos vise zaradjujes......
.....ajd u zdravlje....
to se zove kritika, kritikom do boljih radova ;D
Nije kaciga i meni jako lici na ljigavog goluma Odlican
...al' sam se diskreditovao....:D ....serem kako golum nije dovoljno ruzan, a ne razlikujem rezervoar od kacige...... [rofl] [rofl]
Pa ti stavi rezervoar na glavu a kacigu na masinu ;)
Svaka cast,odlicni radovi,video sam Rossi five continents r1 uzivo u Obrenovcu,odlicno izgleda,samo mi reci jel ona sve u air brashu ili lakirane nalepnice,posto sam namerno pipnuo i bas se osecaju veliki prelazi na masci..
Hvala Nikola. Sve je airbrush. Prelazi se osecaju jer je takav dizajn da je vecina stvari radjena pomocu traka, a podloga je metalik farba, tako da nisam mogao da onako ovlas osmirglam ivice boje. Trebao bi da se ispolira lak da bi se to poravnalo, ali vlasnik rece da mu to ni malo ne smeta, tako da nismo dirali. :)
Bravo!I ja sam video motor uzivo i bas sam zapazio isto to..Odlicno izgleda!
Citat: Igor Amidzic poslato 20 April, 2014, 00:18
Hvala Nikola. Sve je airbrush. Prelazi se osecaju jer je takav dizajn da je vecina stvari radjena pomocu traka, a podloga je metalik farba, tako da nisam mogao da onako ovlas osmirglam ivice boje. Trebao bi da se ispolira lak da bi se to poravnalo, ali vlasnik rece da mu to ni malo ne smeta, tako da nismo dirali. :)
Aaa,ok druze,nemoj da mislis da nesto bockam..samo sam bio radoznao,nista lose,jos jednom svaka cast za radove,a cucemo se,planiram kacigu da radim ;)
Ma naravno, opusteno. :) Ok, tu sam za saradnju.
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Kolko shushke ako nije tajna ovaj kez na kacigi? :)
Oko 100e.
Zainteresovan :D
Samo jos da vidimo da li ova slika
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mere da se ubudzi na ovu kacigu
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jbg nemam bolju sliku kacige, pretpostavljam da bi ovaj deo kod nosa, koji kod mene nije izbocen, pravio problem. Uzdam se u tvoju mastu pa ako imas neku ideju pa da vidimo.
hahaha, lepa bradica :) Moze da se uradi. Nije problem sto je ravan, senkom se postize iluzija, a takodje mozemo iskoristiti deo vizira da nadoknadimo ovu krivulju gore.
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:o [clapp] svaka cast!
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Svaka cast! [thumb_up] [clapp]
Sezona se uskoro zavrsava i krece sredjivanje mezimaca za sledecu, pa je red da se i ja aktiviram.
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super daj jos
Pa mogao bi da bude¹ aktivan bez obzira da li je sezona ili ne, inaèe radovi su ti do OO! [clapp]
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Savr¹eno! ima¹ pre svega dobar crte¾, najva¾niji deo pri izradi desinga. [thumb_up] [cheers]
ja se ovom decu zajsta divim sta radi....i iskreno drago mi je sto ovo nisam izguglao negde po inostranstvu nego je nas covek...jos sa foruma ;)
Gledam i ne verujem sta vidim :o Svaka cast, to se zove umetnost :)
Hvala ljudi!
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Ozbiljni radovi, svaka èast, odu¹evljen sam!
Ovo je kancelarija.
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Svaka èast
Vrh bravo
[clapp]
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Ti si tebra bas razvio posao. Svaka cast.
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Pozdrav svim bajkerima. Nadam se da se lagano spremate za sledecu sezonu. Evo deo od onoga sto se kod mene krckalo....
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extra!!
Bravo! Ovo prevazilazi svako majstorstvo. [thumb_up] [cheers]
kolko [cheers] da dodjes da mi iscrtas ove konture (bez boje) na zidu u spavacoj sobi? :)
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To sam ja radio na zidu pre 30 i kusur godina!
Hahah, jbg matori, ne mogu sebi da priustim da radim za pivo :D Evo Juga ce sigurno da ti izadje u susret :)
Ae bre Igore, vidi¹ Beograd, nadi¹e¹ se sve¾eg vazduha, mo¾da ti da i da pomazi¹ pitona, popije¹ pivo, mane¹ dvaput rukom i to je to! [rofl] [rofl] [rofl]
pa da bre uzme obicnu olovku i iscrta konturu po zidu iz cuga dok ga snimam kao reklamu za forum :D
jugo daj sliku, ako nemas ko da se nije desilo :D
I juga je pre trideset godina bio jugiæ, ko zna koliko slojeva kreèa ima preko te konture? E, trideset godina. [neampojma]
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Hahaha, e da nisi rekao ovo za pitona, pa bih i razmislio. :D Sad mi je ipak frka bas. [panic]